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Post by Outlaw on Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:05 pm

Hey there, I want to make a s/s nuker with fire and bicheon, could anybody suggest me some builds? I have only 2 at the moment
100 fire 100 bicheon 60 ice 40 light and 100 fire 100 bicheon 100 ice .... Neutral
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Post by CapriCorN on Fri Sep 04, 2009 1:18 am

I might get across other players saying 100 100 100 makes best build after all.
but i say if u want fire and bich 100, pick option 1,
since s/s got extra defense, it will take less dmg than spear nuker, so perhaps the extra absorption wont be that necessarily
the lvl 40 light gives u around 10% extra damage,
at lvl 100 10% extra is a LOT
it lacks bit more def, but with good gear you cant have any probs

hope i helped you

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Post by Outlaw on Fri Sep 04, 2009 4:37 am

thx skillex SmileSmile u are my hero Smile but I still have to show you something with the second option http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcWzIoOBDz4
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Post by corpse on Fri Sep 04, 2009 4:53 am

u cant judge a build by only one vid...also the nuker cant kill the archer could mean he is lackin on dmg although the bower is almost just doing 5,6 arrow and then firewall thats why he gets barely attacked so this is no prove of surving abilities or so
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Post by Outlaw on Fri Sep 04, 2009 5:25 am

But I have not seen only one vid Neutral I have some friends that allready have this build the first option I posted, and it's very strong
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Post by Zu on Fri Sep 04, 2009 10:03 pm

On the long run the "best" would be 100bicheon/100fire/100ice (2). The two main differences between the first option and the second option are defence and damage. Though the 10% extra magical damage can't compete with the 60% snow shield. Not to mention the difference in physical defence.

If you're certain you'll make level 100 Rolling Eyes, then the "best" one would be option two.
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Post by Viruz4 on Sat Sep 05, 2009 12:19 am

fact is with 60 ice you dont have any change vs chinese str chars on pvp.. so i would also go for 100 ice 100 fire 100 bicheon.

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Post by Tala l RoC三Pain on Sat Sep 05, 2009 4:42 am

Zu wrote:On the long run the "best" would be 100bicheon/100fire/100ice (2). The two main differences between the first option and the second option are defence and damage. Though the 10% extra magical damage can't compete with the 60% snow shield. Not to mention the difference in physical defence.

If you're certain you'll make level 100 Rolling Eyes, then the "best" one would be option two.

ehm lol really ? s/s nuker without lightning is totaly shit!!!! A normal build is Ice/Light/Fire. He want to skill Bicheon so do Bich/Ice/Light and no Fire.. otherwiseyou can do pur str lol

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Post by Outlaw on Sat Sep 05, 2009 4:59 am

I just started to think that : the fire nuke has 330% damage, and the light has only 300%, and even with that buff of 20% extra damage it can't beat the fire nuke , so that thing is killing me Neutral
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Post by Zu on Sat Sep 05, 2009 5:40 am

Tala wrote:
Zu wrote:On the long run the "best" would be 100bicheon/100fire/100ice (2). The two main differences between the first option and the second option are defence and damage. Though the 10% extra magical damage can't compete with the 60% snow shield. Not to mention the difference in physical defence.

If you're certain you'll make level 100 Rolling Eyes, then the "best" one would be option two.

ehm lol really ? s/s nuker without lightning is totaly shit!!!! A normal build is Ice/Light/Fire. He want to skill Bicheon so do Bich/Ice/Light and no Fire.. otherwiseyou can do pur str lol

Clearly, you don't know what you're talking about. ScreaM couldn't decide between two options, your bicheon/light/ice was not included. I don't understand why you say a s/s nuker without lightning is shit. Fire has more advantages and is actually stronger than lightning (which I have stated before). Lightning fits in every build, but it is not a nessesity.
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Post by Outlaw on Sat Sep 05, 2009 6:05 am

OMG I should have made a poll hehe xD thanks for the answers my friends xD
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Post by MuKu on Sat Sep 05, 2009 6:55 am

do only 100 light and 100 ice.

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Post by TanczGlupia on Sat Sep 05, 2009 3:54 pm

and 100 bicheon I have bich with ice & light and im very happy Smile
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Post by EllLegend on Sat Sep 05, 2009 4:41 pm

2Young4Life wrote:and 100 bicheon I have bich with ice & light and im very happy Smile
i think so too =D
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Post by Tala l RoC三Pain on Sat Sep 05, 2009 5:28 pm

Zu wrote:
Tala wrote:
Zu wrote:On the long run the "best" would be 100bicheon/100fire/100ice (2). The two main differences between the first option and the second option are defence and damage. Though the 10% extra magical damage can't compete with the 60% snow shield. Not to mention the difference in physical defence.

If you're certain you'll make level 100 Rolling Eyes, then the "best" one would be option two.

ehm lol really ? s/s nuker without lightning is totaly shit!!!! A normal build is Ice/Light/Fire. He want to skill Bicheon so do Bich/Ice/Light and no Fire.. otherwiseyou can do pur str lol

Clearly, you don't know what you're talking about. ScreaM couldn't decide between two options, your bicheon/light/ice was not included. I don't understand why you say a s/s nuker without lightning is shit. Fire has more advantages and is actually stronger than lightning (which I have stated before). Lightning fits in every build, but it is not a nessesity.

lol for nukers lightning is neccessary!!! you do with lightning more dmg as with fire and without light!!! And i know what im talking about. Without Light he wont be able to rule in pvp. as i said otherwise he can do pur str

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Post by llllllll on Sat Sep 05, 2009 6:12 pm

The best nukers are;

FIRE / COLD / LIGHT

LIGHT / COLD / FORCE

LIGHT / COLD / WPN

I know it sucks, but that's just how it is...
And to be honest FIRE / COLD / LIGHT isn't all that bad because you get; buffs, high dmg, walls,speed, and mana shield.
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Post by Zu on Sat Sep 05, 2009 6:25 pm

Tala wrote:lol for nukers lightning is neccessary!!! you do with lightning more dmg as with fire and without light!!! And i know what im talking about. Without Light he wont be able to rule in pvp. as i said otherwise he can do pur str
Gosh...
Flame Wave - Disintegrate
1425 ~ 2375 (330%)

Crane's Thunderbolt
1330 ~ 2470 (300%) + 18% = 318%

Fire does more damage then lightning at level 100. Without lightning he won't be able to rule in PvP? Lightning gives mobility/speed, I don't see people running around the area while PvP'ing.

You have to choose between speed/mobility (or light nukes) or mag defense (or fire nukes), literally. If you prefer fire nukes and don't mind losing speed/mobility then go fire/cold.
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Post by Outlaw on Sat Sep 05, 2009 6:47 pm

I don't mind the speed xD there are still drugs of typhoon so I'm not scared of that xD
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Post by LAW on Sun Sep 06, 2009 1:28 am

well weapon skills with out ghost walk is a bit useless as some times u need to get close fast

if u go fire/wep/ice it would be pointless as u will end up using your fire nukes even more

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Post by Outlaw on Sun Sep 06, 2009 9:08 pm

hmmm I don't think so Smile if I need to get somewhere fast I can improve something like a zerk run Smile and I have a barder in my guild xD
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Post by Tala l RoC三Pain on Mon Sep 07, 2009 1:50 am

Zu wrote:
Tala wrote:lol for nukers lightning is neccessary!!! you do with lightning more dmg as with fire and without light!!! And i know what im talking about. Without Light he wont be able to rule in pvp. as i said otherwise he can do pur str
Gosh...
Flame Wave - Disintegrate
1425 ~ 2375 (330%)

Crane's Thunderbolt
1330 ~ 2470 (300%) + 18% = 318%

Fire does more damage then lightning at level 100. Without lightning he won't be able to rule in PvP? Lightning gives mobility/speed, I don't see people running around the area while PvP'ing.

You have to choose between speed/mobility (or light nukes) or mag defense (or fire nukes), literally. If you prefer fire nukes and don't mind losing speed/mobility then go fire/cold.

??? MAG DMG INCREASE 18%!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WITHOUT THAT HE WILL LOSE OFTEN. WITHOUT THAT PUR STR CHARS WILL KS HIM EASILY. WITHOUT THAT HE WILL NEED MUCH LONGER FOR PVE!!!!! THATS THE POINT. But pls if you want that pur str chars ks you so easily pls not my problem

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Post by CapriCorN on Mon Sep 07, 2009 2:07 am

Tala why?
speed buffs or bard buffs are faster than this...
harder damage + faster = best, no?
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Post by Zu on Mon Sep 07, 2009 2:10 am

Tala wrote:??? MAG DMG INCREASE 18%!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WITHOUT THAT HE WILL LOSE OFTEN. WITHOUT THAT PUR STR CHARS WILL KS HIM EASILY. WITHOUT THAT HE WILL NEED MUCH LONGER FOR PVE!!!!! THATS THE POINT. But pls if you want that pur str chars ks you so easily pls not my problem

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But seriously, this is leading to non-sense talk. Can we conclude that both bicheon/fire/light and bicheon/ice/light are good builds? I have listed some facts and you too ( Rolling Eyes). In the end it all comes down to gears anyways.
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Post by Unstoppable on Mon Sep 07, 2009 3:31 pm

Tala wrote:
Zu wrote:
Tala wrote:lol for nukers lightning is neccessary!!! you do with lightning more dmg as with fire and without light!!! And i know what im talking about. Without Light he wont be able to rule in pvp. as i said otherwise he can do pur str
Gosh...
Flame Wave - Disintegrate
1425 ~ 2375 (330%)

Crane's Thunderbolt
1330 ~ 2470 (300%) + 18% = 318%

Fire does more damage then lightning at level 100. Without lightning he won't be able to rule in PvP? Lightning gives mobility/speed, I don't see people running around the area while PvP'ing.



You have to choose between speed/mobility (or light nukes) or mag defense (or fire nukes), literally. If you prefer fire nukes and don't mind losing speed/mobility then go fire/cold.

??? MAG DMG INCREASE 18%!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WITHOUT THAT HE WILL LOSE OFTEN. WITHOUT THAT PUR STR CHARS WILL KS HIM EASILY. WITHOUT THAT HE WILL NEED MUCH LONGER FOR PVE!!!!! THATS THE POINT. But pls if you want that pur str chars ks you so easily pls not my problem

oMG!!!!

almost 90% of pure int chinese pvp king in my server(iSRO) has bicheon/fire/cold or Heuksal/fire/cold.

It
has clearly has the most damage and for the speed, u just grind with
lightning lv60 and delevel it later after u are FF lv100.
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